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Old 17-07-2008   #1
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This decade is one of fashions worst missteps since the 80's

I reckon we'll look back on this decade as one of the worst in fashion, much like the cringeworthy 80's. Granted, it doesn't help that the 80's has been a source of inspiration as of late, but all the ridiculous clothe combinations pioneered by SATC and Gossip Girl with bizarre miss matching of items will go down in history as one of fashion's worst missteps.Seriously, some of the stuff i see girls (and guys for that matter) wear on the street and i go, wtf are you wearing. We may be looking through rose coloured glasses now, but believe you me, we'll look back in years to come and go, 'what the hell was all that about'

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Old 17-07-2008   #2
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^^^^^ I Strongly Agree
 
Old 17-07-2008   #3
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It's not only a matter of fashion: life has gonne without meaning, without direction. General crisis (economic, values, politics, warfare, welfare... nothing works as it should) results in a loss of the individuals from humanity and, them, from themselves. There is a wonderful (and wonderful hard reading) book, Beyon Capital, by István Mészáros, on the subject. The Chapter 15 is very strong, specially. Lost, we don't know how we want the others to see us.... fashion becames the crazy lady of the house.

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Old 17-07-2008   #4
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I simply don't agree. People (and I mean normal people, not in the fashion world) dress in much more attractive manner now than in the 80s.
 
Old 17-07-2008   #5
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It's not only a matter of fashion: life has gonne without meaning, without direction. General crisis (economic, values, politics, warfare, welfare... nothing works as it should) results in a loss of the individuals from humanity and, them, from themselves. There is a wonderful (and wonderful hard reading) book, Beyon Capital, by István Mészáros, on the subject. The Chapter 15 is very strong, specially. Lost, we don't know how we want the others to see us.... fashion becames the crazy lady of the house.

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I agree with this. We are lacking a clear sense of direction and identity and its masked as indviduality. IN this decade, we have been looking more and more into the past to teach us how to dress. And we are not just looking at one point in history in particular, but the 80's, 70's, 60's, hell even other centuries to inform us. What's the result? You're matching roman sandles with 80's ruffles under a turn of 20th century shirt? Why? We need to look to the future, not the past. Things like new materials, fabrics, technology - a totally different notion of clothing. Meanwhile other industries like architecture and industrial design are moving ahead in leaps and bounds while fashion seems content to look to the past, always the past.
 
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I agree with this. We are lacking a clear sense of direction and identity and its masked as indviduality. IN this decade, we have been looking more and more into the past to teach us how to dress. And we are not just looking at one point in history in particular, but the 80's, 70's, 60's, hell even other centuries to inform us. What's the result? You're matching roman sandles with 80's ruffles under a turn of 20th century shirt? Why? We need to look to the future, not the past. Things like new materials, fabrics, technology - a totally different notion of clothing. Meanwhile other industries like architecture and industrial design are moving ahead in leaps and bounds while fashion seems content to look to the past, always the past.
There is some "nichos", however, that this is not so... I think the street-gangs style, always very local, in big cities like Calcuta, Săo Paulo, New York, London, Tokyo, and so on. But these are only exceptions that confirms the general tendecy.

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Old 17-07-2008   #7
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It's interesting that you would feel this way, as I was just thinking the other day about how there really isn't anything characteristic about the last ten or so years at all.

In fact, I don't think there's been a popular movement since the Heroin Chic trend... fashion is all over the place now. Emo culture, urban hip hop culture, the emo-hiphop fusion a la Kanye and Pharrell, the mis-matched fashionistas, the 80's wannabe hipster look, the "Old Hollywood" wannabes; all are legit, popular looks.
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...Meanwhile other industries like architecture and industrial design are moving ahead in leaps and bounds while fashion seems content to look to the past, always the past.
I don't agree with this.

While engineering may allow architecture to take new forms without sacrificing function, architects are still informed by classic shapes, geometric relationships and concepts dating back to Da Vinci, if not further.

Industrial design and fashion are constrained by ergonomics and functionality dictated by the human body, which has not changed in any significant way.

It might be possible, from an engineering standpoint, to dress as a block-long caterpillar, or a two-story-high slice of pizza, but this is not practical.

No matter what advances there are in textile design, people have physical requirements that must be met; flexibility, breathability and so forth.

All creative works constantly digest and regurgitate what has gone before. There is nothing new under the sun.

As to the larger point of how the decade will be viewed from future perspective, you may be right, but that is a separate issue.
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It's interesting that you would feel this way, as I was just thinking the other day about how there really isn't anything characteristic about the last ten or so years at all.

In fact, I don't think there's been a popular movement since the Heroin Chic trend... fashion is all over the place now. Emo culture, urban hip hop culture, the emo-hiphop fusion a la Kanye and Pharrell, the mis-matched fashionistas, the 80's wannabe hipster look, the "Old Hollywood" wannabes; all are legit, popular looks.
I feel exactly the same way. There isn't anything distinct to this decade, at least nothing that's recognizable yet. Nothing that's been done on the streets or on the runways is truly new, and it's like you said, nothing truly new has become big since the latter part of the 90's.

I don't think anyone's in a position to declare this decade a miss because as of right now we don't know what it stood for. It's not like it was obvious from the start that the 80's would become all about empowered glamazon women flaunting wealth and power, nor was it apparent that the 90's would be focused on something very minimal, androgynous and dark. We don't have the benefit of hindsight yet, and when you're stuck in a moment you can't necessarily appreciate what it's all about.
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Old 17-07-2008   #10
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Nothing that's been done on the streets or on the runways is truly new, and it's like you said, nothing truly new has become big since the latter part of the 90's.
I agree. and it could be because of the internet and the new technology which allows us to view fashion from all over the world at a much quicker pace. that way almost every piece that u come up with has been done before somewhere even without you seeing it.

also being into fashion has become a huge trend over these past years..everyone seems to be into creating their own style and consuming like never before which could explain the many different types and mixes of styles you see going on on the streets.

and about the whole mixing of different styles.. I actually love it. I love the fact that just because you 'belong' to a certain category of style you don't have to completly follow that style, like with Kanye and Pharrell playing with the hiphop image and creating a mix
and having a look that consists of mixing different styles also represents how many people are today,people are multitasking more now, being several 'different' types of people all at once.. just look at the celebrityculture now there are actors/singers/politicians/fashion designers.. not many are sticking to one category and it's the same fashionwise

ofcourse there are tons of fashion mishaps going on with this, and this decade will definately leave more photographic evidence of this but to say that it's one of the worst is something I don't agree with at all.. I'm sure there were TONS of fashion mishaps in let's say the 70's .. we just don't get to see them as much

and this has been long sorry but I have to say that I'm more pleased than displeased when I see the way a lot of people are dressing now
 
Old 17-07-2008   #11
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We're in a time where the world is turns around one country...... AMERICA..... And what is America's motto? QUANTITY BEFORE QUALITY....

We're in a system where profit is put before well being and, that, keeps on bringing in more and more contradictions.
 
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And...

... Present does not exist, it is simply an instant from the past.

Think about it guy.
 

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Old 17-07-2008   #13
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i agree with almost everything you said saann, there's been a rupture between last decade and it's due to the new massive access to internet, the effects have been enormous and we'll probably get the bigger picture once the decade is over, but for now whats obvious is the acceleration of the imitation-individualization phenomenon, fashion is so fast and so 'globalized' that no style remains so there aren't many major 'trends' or 'points of view' to hang on to start judging. We should also consider that new designers' have been able to take more relevance and a larger public can consume (be it on material or just the image) their creations , so who do we judge when we state such bold statements like these?


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When has fashion supposedly been good? You look back and half the stuff any decade wore seems ridiculous in one way or another.
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When has fashion supposedly been good? You look back and half the stuff any decade wore seems ridiculous in one way or another.
The 50's, 40's, 20's, some very defining decades that progressed fashion
 

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