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Old 03-10-2008   #136
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I totally agree w you
I always find Pilati's clothes are in a very 80's mood...so there's like a tackyness involved, we all know the 80's arent known for being le chic decade
He is certainly very boring and serious about clothing...I loved all Tom ford's collections, they were something to see...
I dont know, I hate conceptualism...I prefer glam glitter and show
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Old 03-10-2008   #137
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A few things:

1. I like this collection, but it's not all that special. Considering the uncompromising conceptual implications of F/W 08, I'm disappointed that Pilati has backed down off his pulpit a bit here. Those vampiric robotrons were an ideal muse for contemporary YSL. Oh, and the black lips? A niche appeal, to be sure, but one that is highly in demand (look at sales of the Pur Black lipgloss). Anyway, this collection only connects to the most philistine aspects of F/W 08. A shame.
2. The shoes are amazing and probably the best thing about this collection. Pilati certainly has a flair for creating and fetishizing unconventional footwear.
3. Does YSL have to be sexy?
4. I see the Balenciaga references, too. They permeate the majority of the looks. I guess it's inevitable. I think Pilati sees YSL moving away from Tom Ford's viscera and towards Ghesquire's conceptualism. Although, he failed to ignite any philosophical fires with what he offers for S/S 09.
5. Tom Ford turns even the classiest of houses into purveyors high-end hooker apparel.

To answer the first; yes, in order to be true to the spirit of the house set forth by Saint Laurent himself, YSL needs to have an undercurrent of sensuality and eroticism. Without it, it just isn't YSL, because the undercurrent of sexual liberation with the outer veneer of elegance and chic is what made Saint Laurent "Saint Laurent".

To respond to the second; that's entirely too subjective for anyone to lay down any proclamations. One person's hooker is another person's libertine. Fun Fact; the infamous 1940's collection Yves did in the early 70's was at least partially inspired by what prostitutes wore during the forties, such as fur chubbies which, up to that point in time, were a look associated with prostitutes, which was part of the reason why the collection was so controversial.
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Old 03-10-2008   #138
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^^^^actually wasnt partially inspired by 40s hookers it was totally inspired by 40s hookers , thats what pissed people of then lol , not just the chubbies , the tight printed dresses , the somewhat slutty make up, he himself described it as vulgar and said it reflected the times . Its ironic YSL didnt like Ford , because their way of thinking is more similar then it is with YSL and Pilati.
 

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Old 03-10-2008   #139
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YSL liked Tom Ford only for his ad campains. he used to say Tom knew how to sell ...

i'm not gonna say a word about this collection. but i am really disappointed.
it is not as strong as last season and seasons before. the palette is like dead.
i like some stuff a lot. but general is really not what i was waiting for - though i wasn't waiting for sthg special ....
i just maybe have to wait and see ........ how it will develop in my mind!

god knows i'm really sad to say those words.
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Old 03-10-2008   #141
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I guess this person wasn't keen on the collection
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Old 04-10-2008   #142
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OK,I like the airy feeling of the fabrics.The styling is decent.
never be a sucker of the silhouettes of the outwear.
Pilati's YSL girl is more nonchalant than YSL's.
the shoes are hideous.
overall better than last season.
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Old 04-10-2008   #143
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i'm not gonna say a word about this collection. but i am really disappointed.
me too..you took the words right out of my month
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Old 05-10-2008   #145
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After mulling over this show...I think Pilati is actually becoming less and less YSL.

I really think his first collection, SS 05, is probably the truest to YSL DNA of all his collections (although his 2006 period was also good, and SS 07 felt very deliberately YSL). It was the perfect amount of fusiness, sophistication, easiness, sexiness, and it was probably his most confident and playful statement with color (and what's more YSL than fantastic color). The colors were bold and clever and REEKED YSL. Even the set and the music of the SS 05 collection felt YSL...honey colored, herringbone wood floor, the sexy Letta Mbulu song...

His recent obsession with non-colors, harem pants (Stefano...enough, you've been doing them for 2 years straight), minimalism...it just doesn't feel particularly YSL. The music and the sets, as well, feel a little personality-less. I mean, I certainly don't want Pilati to reproduce the archives, but I just feel like his most recent work is lacking that YSL spark...and in a way, his last few collections have been relatively dull because of it.
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Old 07-10-2008   #148
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i like this....some great stuff, i'm pleasantly surprised...not everything is a hit but i like more than i thought i would.
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Old 07-10-2008   #149
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the netted shoes are the shoe of the season for me
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love the colour sceme nice to see darker pieces in a s/s collection .. also im loving the caged pieces .. are they made out of plastic ?? and the sequin pieces are beautiful ..love it all
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