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Old 13-08-2008   #1
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Cavalli Compares Models to ‘Pieces of Wood’

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Roberto Cavalli is taking a swing at some of the world's top models — and one should never hit at models, they break easily, you know. In a controversial interview with Observer Food Monthly (you'll never read that sentence again), the 68-year-old designer criticizes Kate Moss, saying he doesn't think she "has what it takes to be a true star." The fashion legend says he prefers to work with "artists" such as Diddy instead of professional catwalkers. "For me, models are just pieces of wood that I carve to make clothes look beautiful," he says. "There are thousands of models like all other models. Naomi Campbell is the same way."
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Old 13-08-2008   #2
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Roberto Cavalli is taking a swing at some of the world's top models — and one should never hit at models, they break easily, you know. In a controversial interview with Observer Food Monthly (you'll never read that sentence again), the 68-year-old designer criticizes Kate Moss, saying he doesn't think she "has what it takes to be a true star." The fashion legend says he prefers to work with "artists" such as Diddy instead of professional catwalkers. "For me, models are just pieces of wood that I carve to make clothes look beautiful," he says. "There are thousands of models like all other models. Naomi Campbell is the same way."

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Since when is Diddy a true artist? I've always thought of him as a businessman who occasionally releases boring rap music so he can make more money.
 
Old 13-08-2008   #3
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Um...I don't think he makes beautiful clothes so.....
 

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Old 13-08-2008   #4
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Since when is Diddy a true artist? I've always thought of him as a businessman who occasionally releases boring rap music so he can make more money.
I think they are being sarcastic
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I think they are being sarcastic
I hope so!
 
Old 13-08-2008   #6
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Here's what he said... and there's nothing here about him prefering to work with Diddy as opposed to professional catwalkers... and sorry Cavailli but Kate already is a star. Cavalli has a mouth on him & he says whatever he wants... so what. I don't understand why some of you even care. Or why I cared enough to post this

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In fact, he doesn't seem to have much time for professional models. Although he publicly defended Kate Moss after she was filmed allegedly *edited*, he now dismisses her as 'not having what it takes to be a true star'.

'There are thousands of models like all the other thousands of models. Naomi Campbell is the same way. For me, models are just pieces of wood that I carve to make clothes look beautiful.' He admits that he prefers to spend his time hanging out with music stars - he counts Victoria Beckham and P Diddy as close friends. 'Oh Puffy!' he says, before launching into a long anecdote involving a party on board P Diddy's yacht in St Tropez. 'He has such a big heart. He is so sweet.'
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Old 14-08-2008   #7
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Roberto Cavalli likes to say things so that people will pay attention to him and buy his high class hooker fashion.
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Um...I don't think he makes beautiful clothes so.....


funny, in his show all I see are models, not the clothes, I feel sorry for them for having to wear those creations!
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if kate and naomi are pieces of wood, why not use diddy in his campaigns? let's see how many dresses he can sell.
 

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Clearly he's just losing his mind due to old age. He never used to sound so insane.

That said, he has a point. People care so much about the models, often times more than the clothes, and in reality all they are are living clothes hangers. I think in the case of Kate, Naomi et al people just lost sight of that because there weren't any super-glamorous celebs in Hollywood, so gorgeous giraffes with big boobs and bigger hair filled the void. By the time they became "personalities" it was too late to reign them in.

So as much as Cavalli is the last person that should be talking since he has featured Kate in campaigns ad nauseum, he's not entirely wrong.
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Old 16-08-2008   #11
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Cavalli needed Raquel Zimmerman and Isabeli Fontana to make his creations look human
 
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Clearly he's just losing his mind due to old age. He never used to sound so insane.

That said, he has a point. People care so much about the models, often times more than the clothes, and in reality all they are are living clothes hangers. I think in the case of Kate, Naomi et al people just lost sight of that because there weren't any super-glamorous celebs in Hollywood, so gorgeous giraffes with big boobs and bigger hair filled the void. By the time they became "personalities" it was too late to reign them in.

So as much as Cavalli is the last person that should be talking since he has featured Kate in campaigns ad nauseum, he's not entirely wrong.
If you're looking for good photographs, tall legs, great hair and beautiful faces is the first requirement. The second is that photogenic quality that most people don't possess. Good models (and esp vintage celebs) do have that quality, but even that is rare.

If you're interested in great fashion photographs, one model is not completely replaceable for another. But that's just if you:

(i) Care about the art in photography
(ii) Hold the view that the innate qualities of the people who appear in a photograph have an effect on the quality of the photograph.

So, basically, if you care about art and style of the runway show or the photograph, he is wrong.

With the current state of modeling, I would say that it's closer to holding their performers accountable for their work than most other professions. The models who start looking bad or don't have the true photogenic quality are OUT. Sort of like the early days of film making. Now, when a movie star has been selected to be a star, they will be a star until they die, regardless of how poorly they perform (on screen, the supposed core of their work).
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Old 16-08-2008   #13
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Is this even true?
 
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poor cavalli, he's getting senile
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If you're looking for good photographs, tall legs, great hair and beautiful faces is the first requirement. The second is that photogenic quality that most people don't possess. Good models (and esp vintage celebs) do have that quality, but even that is rare.

If you're interested in great fashion photographs, one model is not completely replaceable for another. But that's just if you:

(i) Care about the art in photography
(ii) Hold the view that the innate qualities of the people who appear in a photograph have an effect on the quality of the photograph.

So, basically, if you care about art and style of the runway show or the photograph, he is wrong.

With the current state of modeling, I would say that it's closer to holding their performers accountable for their work than most other professions. The models who start looking bad or don't have the true photogenic quality are OUT. Sort of like the early days of film making. Now, when a movie star has been selected to be a star, they will be a star until they die, regardless of how poorly they perform (on screen, the supposed core of their work).
That may be true for beauty/glamor photography, but good photography does not require a beautiful, photogenic subject by any means. Look at Avedon. He's one of the most respected fashion photographers, and some of his most highly regarded work is that of "normal" people in the American West, not glamorous models.

Digression aside, it's extremely ironic and nonsensical to tout Diddy and Posh as the interesting ones. In light of MJ's ad with Posh in a bag, I think most people recognize Posh as more of a product then models. Also, how many times has Diddy "re-carved" himself and changed his name?
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