Daring is defined by the society in which you live. Plenty of people wear extreme colours in Japan so it's not really that 'new' or 'happening'...
For example:
In Scotland men walk around in skirts and no-one makes any comment. However in a country where kilts are not common you would be assumed to be a cross-dresser if you wore a kilt.
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Japanese do not live in a different planet strawberry, they share most (not to say all) european & american labels, its a matter of style that they interpret those differently.
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if they were as stylish as they are perceived, at least a hefty proportion of them would have been influenced by simplicity and western trends instead of just following the animated styles already established.
i have to disagree on this.. a global 'westernised' style culture does not really fit my vision. why should everyone wave away their culture in order to become 'westernized'?
I actually appreciate a lot all different variations on style e.g. London, Paris, Milan, NY, Antwerp, Tokyo etc each has its own charm and i hope they keep it alive
A remarkable difference between our fashion cultures, is that Japan is actually much more supportive to indie designers than Europe or US. Most new European talents would not be able to support their companies if it was not for the Japanese market, and this is a fact
Originally posted by Lena@Jan 1st, 2004 - 7:40 pm Japanese do not live in a different planet strawberry, they share most (not to say all) european & american labels, its a matter of style that they interpret those differently.
:P I know, i wasn't trying to imply they lived in their own world, or even their own fashion world, nor do i think they should have to conform to western standards. But, it seems they all contradict western standards in a similar way and were they really as fashion conscious as they appear to be, they would sometimes interpret fashion and those most (not to say all) European and American labels in a similar way to other cultures in the world, not because they are conforming or trying to follow the crowd but because they are actually impressed by it. I suppose that is the point of what makes them different But, to me it just seems that they try a bit hard and seem a little too desperate to outdo another's vision of 'unique' .
Originally posted by strawberry daiquiri+Jan 1st, 2004 - 4:33 pm--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(strawberry daiquiri @ Jan 1st, 2004 - 4:33 pm)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Gobi@Jan 1st, 2004 - 9:10 pm Aha, I have lived in Tokyo and for me it's one of the trendiest cities in the world
When I've been to every city in the world ( ) maybe I will include it in that group as well [/b][/quote]
LOL! You are too friendly
hmm....something more I just thought of and wanna add:
ok, if I see some girls in typical Japanese styles in the street here, even though it's not my style and not something I'd wear, I'd still say "oh look at that, it's cool, new and fresh...", really interesting outfits indeed. but take a glance in the Tokyo city or just go over a Japanese magazine, almost all the girls dress the same way, I do mean SAME. there's this very narrow pattern that they follow, and it could be quite boring sometimes to be honest. I'm not saying we have better styles than them or they have better styles than us, my point is that something really trendy and unique to us may be very normal and common among them.
and also, getting the looks of J.Lo, Britney....and some other western celebs is also part of their fashion. they have detailed analysis on the celebs' outfits, makeup, hairstyles, accessories...etc. and teach the readers on how to get the looks --- have always seen these in Japanese magazines. so yeah, while some of us think that they have nice styles, they are also following some western styles here.
I didn't exactly mean,they didn't wear those big labels but that they seem to appreciate and follow the indie's much more.
What's funny is that magazines in the west seem to take a number of pages up featuring the big labels but there they seem to take a number of pages up featuring unknowns or creative talents. Which is such the opposite of the Vogue's and Bazaar's of the west where you only get to see a mere smidge of an article on someone you'd rather much take a better interest in. But they do that which I find quite cool even if they do treat them as just a trend. At least they provide you with the information that you want to see.
Regarding the filtering of western culture in style into Japan,I admire so much in other cities as well. From L.A.,Chicago and NY to Dublin,Glasgow and of course London. Then you've got my favourite in Antwerp. And you must count;Amsterdam,Berlin,Munich,Vienna,Moscow,Prague ,Helsinki,Copenhagen and Stockholm. Its all there in the particular cities,just not as in a whole like you were to find in Japan.
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Originally posted by PrinceOfCats@Jan 1st, 2004 - 7:43 pm What about Beijing and Chongquing? Chinese girls are so elegant. The most beautiful white dresses I ever saw were on Tian An Men square...
Vivienne Westwood is big in some parts of Japan.
Yes. And Hong Kong also has some interesting people.
Vivienne is ineed big there;as is the rest of the British eccentrics,the Belgians,the American underground,the Austrians,the Dutch a few out-of-the-norm French...and of course they adore their very own
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I'm into japanese everything ... I totally blame it on my -jap- best friend .. she told me everything I've got to know, from gothic lolitas to cosplay to ganguro girls!
I've noticed that japanese -teenagers- try to stand out (from hair to make up to clothing)... some try it within a group (like goth, etc) but everyone adapts very western stuff (it's like every schoolgirl and her burberry scarf) Anyhow ... they have their very own indie labels and the unique stuff, I'm totally in love w/their looks and find them surprisingly balanced ... It makes me kick myself in the head that I cant get their stuff in here
Anyhow! tks for the picks!
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i have to disagree on this.. a global 'westernised' style culture does not really fit my vision. why should everyone wave away their culture in order to become 'westernized'? 
) maybe I will include it in that group as well 
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